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Alandalton
06-27-2015, 05:40 PM
Hi All.

I was wondering how set up a method so a reverb would only come on once a vocal stops singing.
Kind of ducking but using sidechain compression, I think.

Thanks,

Alan

vocoderboy
06-27-2015, 06:09 PM
set up an RV7000+Mclass comp as a send efx on the ssl then use a spider to split the vocal and use the split signal activate the side chain .

Runcell
06-27-2015, 10:31 PM
Or you could automate the wet/dry dial.

vocoderboy
06-28-2015, 12:17 AM
drawing in auto' curves is a ball ache where as when you apply gate or chain you just set it up and it does the work.
think how many times the vox stops in a song you'd be there all day

Osmose
06-28-2015, 06:15 AM
Sidechaining is a lot easier indeed.
Just like vociderboy said, do so in a parallel channel.
But, it works great with delays as,well! You know, when you want a prominent delay on a vocal but don't want to make things messy either.

If the compressors envelope is set well, it won't sound over compressed but when it does, you can always use the compressors cv out to automate the volume trough a 16:2 mixer.

Runcell
06-28-2015, 01:28 PM
I think, do you mean like ducking in reverse Mr Alan ? Where the compressor forces the reverb in ? A traditional (downward) compressor will not achieve this. You may need to look at expanders or upward compressors for this..!

vocoderboy
06-28-2015, 01:57 PM
are we missing the obvious here, the echo has a knob what says ducking on it so one could set up a reverb on the echo and use the ducking effect on that.

Matt
06-28-2015, 03:50 PM
I agree Sidechaning is the way to go under these circumstances. Also I would add that you can use the Hi & Lo pass filters to dial in frequencies also which can be really cool.

Osmose
06-28-2015, 06:44 PM
are we missing the obvious here, the echo has a knob what says ducking on it so one could set up a reverb on the echo and use the ducking effect on that.

ye, but the echo isnt really capable of really dense hall verb's for instance. Plus this effect can be done with pretty much everything, like distortion.

vocoderboy
06-29-2015, 07:22 PM
so a daisy chain of RV7000 and Mclass is the way forward

Alandalton
07-04-2015, 06:16 PM
Great.
Thanks all.
It was ducking for the reverb I was looking for.
Compressor and Rv7000 seems to be the way.